Star Wars III : Compte rendu! (Spoilers assurés!)

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Kaman

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Intéressant ce lien, dommage que le français parlé soit plus qu'approximatif :?
 

neo

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ah ué interessant le site!
zou!

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j'ai ete le voir il est vraiment excelent !

la premiere partie est ennuyeuse je trouve

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ronz0

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aller.. après le divertissement...

Darth Vader and the New World Order
Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith mirrors reality

Infowars.com | May 18, 2005
Alex Jones

The Star Wars story has had, without a question, the greatest impact on
popular culture of any movie in world history. We will now explore why
it has resonated so strongly with so many people across generations.

At last, the mainstream media is picking up on something we've been
talking about for years. The plot lines of George Lucas' six Star Wars
films mirror, in many respects, the activities of western governments.

George Lucas, the creator of the Star Wars saga, has said over and over
again that he simply plays on subconscious archetypal symbols that
evoke primeval fears and passions. Lucas has also stated on many
occasions that he draws from historical examples of imperial leaders'
lust for war and total power.

Lucas has said that that is why his films have such a powerful effect
of people. Deep down, everyone knows that the greatest threat to life
and liberty isn't the average criminal on the street, but the
monolithic, all-powerful state.

The human desire to resist tyranny is one of the strongest drives we
have and Lucas plays upon that instinct masterfully.

While premiering his film, Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith, at the
Cannes Film Festival George Lucas was asked if his new film was a
social commentary on George Bush and the Iraq invasion (which even our
own government admits is part of America's new "kindly, helpful and
loving" imperialism).

How can they not ask this when Darth Vader says to his former teacher
Obi-Wan Kenobi, "if you're not with me, then you're my enemy." Remember
that Lord Bush, after the 9/11 attacks said, "either you are with us,
or you are with the terrorists."

Lucas responded to the reporters by saying that the original Star Wars
was developed in the early post-Veitnam War era shortly after Richard
Nixon left office amidst a byzantine scandal.

He continued by saying, "The issue was, how does a democracy turn
itself into a dictatorship...When I wrote it, Iraq (the U.S.-led war)
didn't exist.. but the parallels of what we did in Vietnam and Iraq are
un believable ...I didn't think it was going to get this close."

Speaking about present day America he said, "I hope this doesn't come
true in our country."

There are thousands of examples of classical despotism being practiced
in the US and worldwide today. Here are just a couple:

- Our new Attorney General, Alberto Gonzales, in published memos told
the President and military leaders that US forces could interrogate
detainees to death. If the detainees died while being tortured, the
military's actions would be legal as long as they hadn't killed them on
purpose. The document contained examples of how to strap someone down
to a table and lower them into "liquid effluent" until they began to
pass out.

Gonzales had the nerve to say that President Bush is the law and that
he can break any Federal or international law that he wishes because he
is the President. Gonzalez openly defended his view in front of a
Senate panel that still confirmed him to be Attorney General.

Remember Hans Solo in the Empire Strikes Back strapped down in a
torture chair as Darth Vader administers electric shocks. According the
Alberto Gonzales' logic this is good. Vader works for the Emperor and
the Emperor is the law.

The Attorney General's dark views are shared by the rest of the White
House. They believe that they are above the law. Coupled with the
exploding American police state, this reality is the text book
manifestation of dictatorship.

Combine this open demonstration of dictatorship with 63 countries on a
White House invasion hit-list and tyrannical empire is the only term
that fits.

-Under section 802 of the USA Patriot Act, misdemeanor non-terror
related crimes are listed as terrorism. Citizens are stripped of their
most basic Constitutional rights that were held sacred in the old
Republic.

-George Bush has set up a draconian Department of Homeland Security,
giving FEMA the power to engage in mass arrests.

-Last year, the outgoing head of CENTCOM, General Tommy Franks, told
the press that if America was attacked again the Constitution would be
set aside in favor of a military form of government.

-The Federal government is dismantling the last vestiges of States'
rights with its new Federally-standardized National ID Card that has
been integrated with thousands of private databases to track and trace
our every action.

Government-Sponsored Terrorism

When I first saw Episode I, I instantly understood the plot. Being a
student of history, it made total sense. But, I was amazed, time and
time again, when talking to educated adults who were also Star Wars
fans that they didn't get it. They'd say, "it doesn't make any sense."

This phenomenon got even worse when Episode II came out. People were
totally confused. They didn't understand a plot that children could
grasp.

For those who are still confused, here's a plot synopsis in a nutshell:
In Episode I, Senator Palpatine is an obscure politician from the
peaceful world of Naboo. Palpatine influences Naboo not to pay its
Trade Federation taxes. The corrupt mercantile Trade Federation cartel
then blockades the Naboo system and begins a ground invasion of its
capitol, taking its orders from the sinister leader Darth Sidious, Lord
of the Sith, who is one and the same with Senator Palpatine.

By manipulating the outcome of the Naboo police action, Palpatine (who
then plays the part of resisting an operation that he has launched) is
able to springboard into the Chancellery of the Galactic Senate.

Episode II begins with a widening conflict that threatens to destroy
the hundred thousand-year-old Republic. The newly- elected Chancellor
(Palpatine) is able to use the expanding crisis as a pretext to pass
police state legislation and to launch a mammoth military buildup.

As in Episode I, Darth Sidious is in control of the separatists led by
the charismatic Count Dooku, who is his secret apprentice, Darth
Tyrannus. Darth Sidious uses his agent (Count Dooku) to create a crisis
that threatens to destroy the Republic, thus threatening the Republic's
very existence and manipulating the Senate into giving him the powers
of a dictator.

This is the classic use of problem-reaction-solution. Create a crisis,
get the reaction of fear from the population, and offer the solution of
a police state that you control.

Real-world examples of this through history are:

-Adolph Hitler, two months after being elected Chancellor, firebombed
the German Parliament (Reichstag) building, blamed it on his political
enemies and declared martial law in the Reich.

-Most historians now believe that the US government bombed its own ship
in Havana harbor as a pretext to launch the Spanish-American war in
1898.

-The LBJ Presidential library in 2003 released taped conversations
between President Johnson and Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara in
which they discussed how the Gulf of Tonkin attack never really took
place and how to use it to officially kick of the Vietnam War which
resulted in the deaths of over 58,000 US troops and over a million
Vietnamese.

-In early 2001, the Baltimore Sun and ABC News reported on a
newly-declassified operation code-named Northwoods, where the Joint
Chiefs of Staff proposed hijacking jets by remote control and crashing
them, bombing DC, committing sniper attacks in Miami and DC, having the
CIA attack the Guantanamo Bay Marine Corps base with mortars, and how
to blame all of this terrorism on Cuba and the Soviet Union, giving the
Pentagon the pretext to start World War III.

The plan was green-lighted all the way up to President Kennedy who
vetoed the plan. The bottom line is that the US government planned to
terrorize its own cities as a pretext for war.

In Episode III, the surviving Jedi realize, when its too late, that the
Clone Wars have been systematically engineered by the Lord of the Sith
to destroy the Republic and the Jedi.

In the end, the Emperor dispatches his dark apprentice, Darth Vader, to
exterminate the Jedi and the leaders of the separatist movement (that
the Chancellor controlled), leaving the enemies of the Sith dead and
the Sith in control of the Central Government. The despotic Galactic
Empire is born.

George Bush: Problem-Reaction-Solution

We look at the real world and the military-industrial-complex that
controls George Bush, and it is clear that the government is using the
problem-reaction-solution system to bring in their own empire.

Using the threat of terrorism, the Executive Branch has declared
authoritarian powers unto itself. At the same time, they tell the
people that they won't be safe until every "rogue" nation (nations that
are sovereign) are under World Government control.

It is a fact that bin Laden has been a CIA agent since at least 1981.
The highest levels of the CIA have publicly said that they do not want
to catch him.

Think about who really has the motive for the September 11th attacks.
None of the Arab nations have taken responsibility, although they've
been falsely accused of carrying out the attacks. Who in their right
mind would attack the heart of an unmatched military juggernaut with
seven times superiority of any military on earth?

Who stands to gain? Who gets trillions of dollars in Iraqi and Afghan
oil? What group gets to sell hundreds of billions in weapons systems?
Who gets to be our hero and silence all political opposition? What
group is now turning America into a high-tech police state? In the
Project for a New American Century (PNAC) documents, Dick Cheney told
us in 2000 that the neo-cons and their backers gain.

PNAC documents written by Dick Cheney and other top neo-cons call for a
helpful Pearl Harbor-like attack to mobilize the American people in a
war for empire. One of the Pentagon's chief strategists, Tomas Barnett,
openly calls America an empire and has a laundry list of nations that
need to be invaded immediately.

The bin Laden family has been in business with Bushes for over thirty
years. Bush Senior and the bin Ladens vacation together. The Bushes and
the bin Ladens are on the board of the armament dealing consortium, the
Carlyle group whose profits have quadrupled since 9/11.

The press has been forced to admit that the hijackers had their houses,
cars and credit cards paid for by the Federal government. They were
trained on US military bases. When US Embassies tried to block their
entry into the US, the CIA ordered them to allow entry.

There are over 600 pieces of evidence that show that bin Laden is
George Bush's Count Dooku, which are covered in detail in my three
films on 9/11, the newest being Martial Law 9/11: Rise of the Police
State.

Hollywood Movies: Art Imitates Life

I've noticed with fantasy people have trouble understanding the concept
of would-be tyrants creating crises so they can offer the solution. We
see popular Hollywood films peppered with this idea. For example:

In the blockbuster, The Incredibles, the evil genius, Syndrome, wants
to be worshipped as a super hero, so he stages a robotic attack on a US
city which he plans to then foil and become the people's savior.

In the film, Final Fantasy, a General who wants to be given dictatorial
powers opens the gates so the enemy can attack New York and then
discredit his peacenik opponents.

There are countless examples of this, and I've noticed that when I talk
to adults who have seen these films they don't understand the plots.
But, when I talk to children they completely grasp it.

From a sociological/psychological perspective, why is there this blind
spot in adults? Is it being engineered into us? Are we in denial? If so
many intelligent people can't grasp a children's plot line, no wonder
they can't really understand what's behind 9/11.

Missing the Big Picture

Infowars.com has seen scores of mainline publications from CBS News to
Japan Today drawing parallels between America's predatory militarism
and the grasping empire of the Star Wars universe.

What they've missed is the central point that Lucas makes time and time
again. Criminal elements within the government that seek to overthrow
freedom and replace it with slavery get their power through carrying
out terrorist attacks and manufacturing enemies that they fund and
control.

In some cases, as with the separatists in Star Wars, they don't even
know who they are controlled by, just as an Arab suicide bomber might
not know that the funds and training that he received came from a
western intelligence agency. He doesn't know that his attack will be
used to crack down on entire populations and stop any real peace
process, because the weapon dealers have no interest in peace. Chaos is
the ether in which they swim.
The dominant press also misses the boat on how much Star Wars itself
has been influenced by the Third Reich. The uniforms worn by imperial
officers are almost identical to the German military staff. Political
officers in the empire wear the black uniforms that even more closely
resemble the dreaded garb of the German political police, the SS.

Star Wars also acts as a type of cultural feedback loop. Star Wars'
villains are modeled after the Nazis (Darth Vader's helmet is simply a
slightly more pronounced German artillery solder's head piece), and, in
turn, modern governments are themselves influenced by the
visigothic-style of Star Wars.

The press reported in the early 1980's that while Ronald Reagan was
campaigning for President in 1979 he was camping at Bohemian Grove in
Northern California with business leaders. They came up with the idea
to give the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI) the catchy name "Star
Wars." '

Out of SDI grew the US Space Command. Today all US military forces are
under the control of the ultra-secretive US Space Command.
In the 1980's military and law enforcement planners wanted to come up
with intimidating uniforms for SWAT teams and militarized riot police.
They came up with a design which has now been adopted thanks to federal
grants in almost every major city. The uniform, which they admit is
meant to strike fear into the public, is extremely similar to the suit
worn by the Dark Lord of the Sith, Darth Vader.
Seattle Riot Cop
A Ringwraith

Or course, long before Darth Vader existed in our minds, every culture
had a dark totem representing evil and domination that manifested
itself as a tall, pitch-black hooded or helmeted sorcerer. Similar to
the ringwraiths of J.R. Tolkein's Lord of the Rings trilogy.

We should all be concerned that our government is choosing to clothe
our police in these macabre get-ups. Throughout history, secret police,
torturers, inquisitors, executioners, terrorists, bank robbers and
every other form of scum has worn the black mask. Of course, in the Klu
Klux Klan, the black mask is only worn by the Supreme Grand Dragon.

The New World Order

In Episode III, the Emperor talks about a "New Order." How many
Presidents and leaders have we heard spout off about a "New Order" or a
"New World Order?" George Bush Senior, Adolph Hitler, and countless
others have all called for a New World Order.

A New World Order is a worldwide dictatorship. At least that is what
the encyclopedia said up until the 1960's. Now resource books,
especially those for children tell you that it is a loving, wonderful
thing that will keep us all safe from terror.

Secret Societies

In the Star Wars universe, the Sith are members of a self-centered
secret society that has been passing down its knowledge for thousands
of years. The religion revels in death and destruction. War is its
sacrament, death stars and war ships its cathedrals. This is one of the
central threads that runs throughout the entirety of Star Wars lore.

For over a decade, I have been studying civilization and time and time
again in my research I run into the occult, secret societies and, at
the top of it all, the Order of Death, known by the public as the order
of Skull and Bones.

The only widely known manifestation of the Order of Death is one of its
chapters based at Yale University, the Order of Skull and Bones,
Chapter 322, of which both George W. Bush and his father are members.
Three Presidents have been members of Chapter 322 alone. Eight CIA
directors were members. George W. Bush's administration has 11 members
currently at the highest levels. And 322 is only one chapter.

In July of 2000, I infiltrated what can be called the mother ship of
the Order of Death, the Bohemian Grove. This is the same place where
Reagan decided to call SDI "Star Wars." Major California papers have
reported on the rumors that world leaders meet there and perform
bizarre black magic rituals to the Caananite deity that represented
death, Moloch.

While I was inside, I was able to secretly film the bizarre annual
ritual, the Cremation of Care, which takes place at the Bohemian Grove
every year. The footage I took aired nationally on the Trio Network.

Now, we have come full circle. Why is all of this important? Because,
since infiltrating, I have become aware of and have obtained publicly
available annals of Bohemian Grove and its correspondence with Skull
and Bones. Many of these documents are posted on infowars.com in the
Bohemian Grove section.

What we learned shocked me to my very core. Skull and Bones and
Bohemian Grove are nothing but US extensions of a germanic death cult
that has been operating for thousands of years. This same group, that
calls itself the Order of Death, is mentioned as the Tooley and Thule
society and respected, mainstream works on the rise of the Third Reich
detail how Adolph Hitler was a member of his group, and how they
supported his rise to power and his subsequent actions in World War II.

Then I learned that Prescott Bush, the grandfather of the President,
had gotten into deep trouble during World War II for trading with the
enemy, and that he was on the Board of Directors of the company owned
by Fritz Thyssen who was also a member of the Order of Death and the
chief financier of Hitler in Germany.

In my new film, Martial Law 9/11: Rise of the Police State I detail
these facts with documents from the National Archives, the London
Guardian, the New Hampshire Gazette, and Skull and Bones and Bohemian
Grove's own annals.

I've really got to hand it to George Lucas. He really did his homework.
It took me a decade of intense research to discover the fact that our
world is dominated by members of a secret society that give themselves
names like "Lord Death," "Lord Longtooth," "Lord Dragon," and "Long
Devil."

Lucas was able to expose, if you think he's doing it for good, or
desensitize, if you think he's doing it for bad, the entire public to
the reality of what is going on, projected onto the backdrop of
fantasy.

Take away the light sabers and levitation and you're left with what our
world leaders really believe in, what their religion really is, what
makes them tick. The global controllers, of whom Bush is just a puppet,
are using the same tactics to control populations employed by the Dark
Lords of the Sith.

I know this is hard to believe, but if you just research their own
publications they brag about it. German Chancellor Helmut Schmidt in
his own autobiography, Men and Powers, A Political Retrospective
bragged that they had their own secret society meeting places in German
where they did rituals, but his favorite place was Bohemian Grove.

I probably shouldn't be surprised by George Lucas' insight, his
understanding of this greatest of secrets. By telling his Star Wars
story and interlacing it with the truth, he touched all of our
subconscious minds where we deep down know the truth about the world
but don't have the courage to consciously admit it.

In doing so, Lucas has made over 10 billion dollars with his films and
merchandise. By telling the truth even in a screened way, he has tapped
into our collective unconscious and told us a story that we know is
true.

In closing, it's important to see George Lucas' first feature film,
THX-1138, based on a student film he produced in college. THX, which
has become Lucas' signet, appearing in all of his films and most of his
products, tells the story of man totally dehumanized in a
forced-drugged, shaved-head police state and how one man stands up and
breaks free of that system.

That's the heart of why the public loves Lucas. Not just that he tells
the truth in a way that gets past the censors, but that he reminds us
that the individual can stand up against organized evil and win.
 

Ahava

Revenant
tu crois que qqun va lire tout ca :p

J'ai aussi entendu ces trucs, et G. L. n'a jamais démenti les rapports dans Starwars avec ceux du Vietman, et le confit en Iraq y ressemble...
 

Jereck

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Darth Alex a dit:
tu crois que qqun va lire tout ca :p
Moi.

Je suis d'accord avec ce qui est dit, jusqu'au sociétés secrètes.
Après ça, ça devient plus de la propagande qu'antre chose il me semble
 

zoheir

cvm.mangaleet()
merci pour l'article
 

Tetsuya

Elite
j'ai été le voir hier... il déchire :D
 

kaidok

Elite
[k2 a dit:
]Moi j'aimerai qu'on m'explique.

Dans l'episode 2 , on voit a peu pres 100 jedi contre 4000000[...]0000 de droides , et les jedis gagnent sans problemes...


Dans l'episode 3 , quand l'empereur demande d'executer l'ordre 66 , ils sont 3 clones contre 1 jedi , le jedi est eclaté ...

Fin moi et mes sorties ciné :roll:
Dans l'épisode 2 , 200 chevaliers jedi sont tués durant la bataille de Geonosis (selon les livres), on est très loin d'une victoire facile...
 
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